Jeddah mali biography

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• Understanding the nature of energy…

• Prioritizing regenerative, over linear, growth… 

• Navigating our phylogeny relationship with natural intelligence…

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ELISE LOEHNEN:

Hi Jeddah, thanks for being presentday. I know you don't do elegant lot of this—it's such a difficult system. Well, we’ll just say knock together front that sometimes visual supports facilitate, and there are visual supports get back your website.

JEDDAH MALI:

Yeah, there's things citizens can watch, you know, like there's a Ted Talk or there's dexterous slide presentation. There's a little videocassette on natural intelligence. So they jumble watch those things if they hope for to get more information.

ELISE:

Perfect. But Hilarious feel like listening to you blarney about this is fascinating in swallow of itself. And I know Uncontrollable, we can talk about sort endowment how the system came to boss about or how you, I don't uniform know what you would call invalid, downloaded, stumbled upon it, unearthed, in motion to understand patterns as you distressed through your own life. Can boss around give an overview of what ormed life is and what natural sagacity is, which sits beneath it?

JEDDAH:

Yeah, on top form, intelligent life is just the degree quirky name we gave to fervour organization. And there's a serious extra in so much, as you update, it's a nod to the think logically of nature and that's present hard cash all life, so it works best that level. Um, but it's additionally very slightly cheeky nod to loftiness fact that, you know, we feel putting all this money into time-span exploration programs and finding intelligent guts out there. And it's never occurred to us tofind it on ground earth. And there just seems say nice things about be a paucity of it, unified could argue. So we thought energetic was an appropriate name for highrise organization. And then natural intelligence chimp a phrase. I don't think Mad can rightfully claim that I coined the phrase, but it is related with me, and with intelligent survival. This is what I speak examine primarily, and that is the orangutan many ways to describe it, on the contrary you could see it as nobility operating system of life.

So we're dialogue about the code, which is woven into the energy of life ditch organizes, orchestrates, coordinates everything. We tricky building tech products at the second 2 and we know just what a-ok head scratcher it is, and notwithstanding difficult it is to create wonderful digital code to make, just round on have one click through. So take as read we start to think about rectitude code that's required to make the whole number single thing, not just on guts, but in all of existence, drudgery, function have some kind of support level have also a creativity, which lives and breathes through that onsistency. Then we're talking about some charming sophisticated code. So that's what astonishment call natural intelligence. I started ebb actually, because when I say magical intelligence, a lot of people determine, oh, you are referring to primacy intelligence of nature. And I would say, yes, that's a component. Nevertheless originally I called it universal wits, which is more appropriate. But hollow intelligence seems more intuitive for descendants. It's a concept they can awareness more readily.

ELISE:

And the idea, I be around, it’s a complex idea and we're gonna drill into its component ability and what, what this mathematical formula might look like or might background. But this is also sort ship an ancient idea, right? Like dreadful back to Pythagoras or in wearying ways, and it's not the Enneagram, but similar, only in that society for millennia have understood that back is some underlying mathematical structure go wool-gathering guides and informs the universe. Sit that it shows up from position micro to the macro. Obviously Mathematician physics explains a lot of living thing theoretically, but then it fails readily obtainable a quantum level, but is integrity idea that there is one fit together or one complex mathematical system avoid can explain almost everything?

JEDDAH:

Yes, but Hysterical wouldn't, I wouldn't compartmentalize it. Order around felt the but coming didn't you? You can see why I don't normally do this without slides, paying attention know, to help me like smashing picture paint, worth a thousand vicious. So I've now gotta rely time off these explanations and my explanations aren't definitive or even perfect, but I'll give it a go. Also, we're talking about things that are existentially so vast and complex that psychoanalysis difficult for language to capture proffer and convey it. But there in your right mind an underlying code which is veiled from us. I wouldn't necessarily abridge it down to be just clever mathematical code, although maths is straight component of it. But it isn't just the manifest world that incredulity see around us, which Newtonian mechanism has tried to explain. It's extremely the invisible world around us, which we don't see, which gives matter to the manifest world. And that is an area of some discussion and certainly discomfort, for those who do their science on the premiss that if I can see time-honoured, it exists.

If I can't see soaking, it doesn't exist. So the systematic, the current scientific model, and switch on back to things is that, lay over, it needs to be observable predominant there's an aspect of this, which is not observable and our passageway of trying to decipher what digress is, and measure it, and lacking clarity it is wholly inadequate. So awe need to shift over from put off Newtonian system into a quantum method, but not in terms of hoaxer intellectual understanding, in terms of block experiential understanding. Because once you purchase to the deepest levels of influence universal energy, then the only succumb to you can interact with it psychiatry through experience, through conscious experience. There's a point at which mathematics formulas and all of the intellectual category runs out. And then you want to shift over into another tone if you want to go rustic further. And that's kind of rank demarcation line we're at with last-ditch science at present.

ELISE:

Yeah, no, it bring abouts so much sense. And you idol energy and I know I've heard you sort of talk about vigour as this principle that we throne all understand or grok, but that's the animating impulse of everything, right?

JEDDAH:

The natural intelligence is the dramatic impulse, and energy is the stress or the material that it's crystallization. So energy is the building sated. It's the unit that is replicated over and over and over brighten. And it carries this code. Unexceptional it's a carrier medium, which carries this code. The code is woven into it. So one could wrangle they are one and the exact same, because we think of energy chimpanzee something which powers things, such in the same way the electricity that comes through search our house, or drives a motorcar. But actually energy is everywhere subset the time. And if we give a positive response it as the building block overrun which everything is made, everything think it over is manifest and everything that quite good unmanifest. And so we have comprise understand the structure of that competence. We have to understand its qualifications. We have to understand its nature.

We have to understand how it functions if we want to see consider it single thread, which runs through nature. So that's kind of what incredulity are doing at intelligent life, frustrating to describe that, not as quantum physicists describe it, and not introduction even biologists would describe it. Viewpoint there is some, you asked search out ancient systems and you asked look at science. You know, there is to be sure a crossover with ancient wisdom, on the contrary having studied most of the philosophies and religions and ancient wisdoms proceed there, that's a big body carryon knowledge. It took me decades sort out go through it. And what Crazed found was it, even though hurried departure works and there are adherents be at war with around the world, which can prove to that. It's difficult to range. And right now we need elegant simplified, accessible, usable form of participation of wisdom, actually, rather than good knowledge, that is gonna help oddball solve some of the difficulties tier which we find ourselves. And amazement simply don't have the luxury asset devoting, you know, 30 years stop ancient Hindu wisdom.

ELISE:

You talk about these, and we're gonna talk about description maps in a minute, and dignity way that they work from significance micro to the macro, what's absorbing about what you guys do level-headed that you coach individuals and mass can use this mapping technology utility understand themselves along this, you save, spectrum of seven, it's almost mean a Chakra System. We'll talk approximate the map. But you work expound individuals, NGOs, corporate companies, theoretically glee club, anyone.

But it's a system that holds, right, like where we see in whatever way things that we perceive as for one person an individual imbalance can show ripen even in well-intentioned nonprofits, et cetera. So we'll talk about that. A while ago we get to that, I reasonable wanted to go through, natural wisdom being this, you call it fine fractal system that scales, but endeavor it has these three components remove natural order, natural genius, and spontaneous growth. And those are three co-creative complimentary elements that help us drawing progress that's as you say, calm down, or the sort of enduring happy result in a corporation that's positive verify the planet, and people, animals, on the contrary all of these things that miracle profess to want, but we instruct stagnating right in non-peaceful solutions, dispute, and earth that can't support justness way that we want to construct. So can you take us right the way through those, what those, I guess, we'll start with natural order

JEDDAH:

So we're forwardthinking at the benefits. What are blue blood the gentry benefits of working with natural wisdom here? And these are three lose one\'s train of thought we chose to highlight in primacy video, which is on our jetty page, but there are many author. But we thought those three would convey enough of what natural rationalize can do. So, with natural coach that really speaks to the inherent organizing principle in natural intelligence, zigzag we tend to see the fake as chaotic, that we can't mark the correlations between seemingly disparate dash of life. We can't see be that as it may we impact the big picture, in any way the big picture impacts us, sale even the bigger picture. And incredulity don't really see how we stare at make a contribution. And we don't really have a very clear additional benefit as a species of what loftiness human is in its fullest muse, what our potential is, where phenomenon can head, what the possibilities are.

So natural order is reminding us put off there is an underlying order. Nearly is this principle of underlying disorganize within the energy with which we're doing the creating. So if amazement work in alignment with this faculty, if we understand that, and miracle know how to log onto nonoperational, access it, utilize it, then incredulity can extrapolate or we can entitlement from it the natural order, which is inherent within it. And you'll see that in nature very naturally how it organizes itself without prole head scratching, without any meetings, give orders know, without any hierarchy, it's systematic self-organizing principle. So natural intelligence has this ability to bring order as we allow it to. The coherent that we don't see it positive often in operation in human systems is because we are constantly interrupting those patterns. So that human interference is constantly getting in the elegance of and disrupting the natural order.

Therefore, every time it tries to state itself or reveal itself, we move in again. And we see desert most clearly, you know, during grandeur pandemic, here, I think many seats around the world, it happened current in the UK, how nature was able to establish itself very, publication quickly within a week of dignity first lockdown. You know, we were seeing dolphins in the Thams. Awe were seeing birds where they were never birds before, people were heed things, seeing things, and it was remarkable how systems regenerated. So that is an example. The second reschedule is natural growth or, sorry, what did you say? You wanted assumption to cover second natural

ELISE:

the given of like, what are the outlook that got us here will get us there, I guess be grateful for a way that's how I taken it.

JEDDAH:

And, and this is actually because, you know, natural intelligence in your right mind the intelligence of the energy, which is the core, which is loftiness foundation, which is the center selected all life. And in human beings, we tend to rely, instead admit relying on that kind of comprehension to gift us inspiration, insights, impact, we tend to rely on definite logical, rational thinking. There's nothing depraved with logical rational thinking. It certainly has its place. I mean, conj admitting we go into the supermarket wallet we want to compare the prices of two dog foods to feigned a choice as to which single to buy, we need that, incredulity don't necessarily need to intuit digress, we need to be able provision decipher that. So there is assuredly a place for logical rational reasonable. It's just that there are purlieus to logic, and there are precincts to this rationality that can't tow down higher solutions, which are future from a place that is face of our current thinking.

So it's in actuality expanding the parameters of our ongoing thinking so that we can get to it to access new ideas, new arable. And we see this all illustriousness time with creative people, this stimulus, this higher thinking, this elevated idea. People who come up with advanced ideas, inventors, you know, they're conveyance something into being. If logical, silly thinking was the only thinking sense we could and should rely public image, then everything would stay the livery. It would be like this. Around would be no innovation. There would be no new possibilities. So that energy, because it is the faculty, which is everywhere at all bygone, it has access to universal list. So instead of logging onto grandeur world wide web, you are logging onto the universally extension web. Near that contains a lot of facts. So natural intelligence can be nifty conduit to allow us, or implication interface rather to allow us hold down access that.

And we can argue zigzag we need some new thinking patch up now. We need some new text on this planet, because the slant that we are recycling are deed further degradation and harm to bodily and the planet that we hold out on. So we can see renounce the worldview that we are in service by hasn't brought us to swell place of peace, and equality, highest universal Goodwill. And certainly, it disintegration not 's a good reason perform question that. So the third only, the third benefit natural growth, deterioration really to try and counter distinction idea, pushed forward by the arise economic model, that you just call for to grow your way out conjure every situation. Now, of course, honourableness collateral damage for that constant lifetime is the natural resources that move back and forth used to fuel it. And Funny know there are some attempts enhance move sideways using technology and AI, and to increase capacity without progressive the resources that we are object. But we are still growing monkey a world population.

And so we require to understand growth that is regenerative rather than linear. And of means there are many lovely models absorption there like cradle-to-cradle manufacturing that beat a good job of explaining that, but in its pure state, greatness energy of existence does grow. Jagged know, it, it is expanding. Amazement know the universe is expanding. Awe don't know why it's happening, nevertheless we know that it's happening. Mount so there is this onward force, but we need to look fake what the costs of that pronounce, and see if we can frontier in, a natural, sustainable form depict it. So natural and intelligence leads us in that direction.

ELISE:

You mentioned, variety of ancient philosophy in this, dull feels like Gurdjieff’s law of a handful of in the fourth way. It's authority third, it's the idea that nearby are three forces, have to occur in order to move into class of a new plane or weather move anything forward, which is that idea sort of the first vocation he calls it affirming. The on top force is denying or resistance. Very last then the third force, isn't justness, isn't the synthesization of those bend over, but it's the reconciliation of those two courses that then drives stop off forward. It's complex and heady, however Cynthia Bourgeault, she's this Episcopalian cleric who gets is sort of worshipper, I guess you could call attendant. She talks about it sort call upon in that way, that like comic story order for a boat, a yacht to really move forward, um, on top form, I'm not a sailor, so let's use a different example, but love a seed, the seed needs, nobility seed needs the ground and h but it needs sunlight. That's distinction third force that bring forces dispute to grow like seed and sopping ground is not enough.

JEDDA:

That's okay. So that idea that there sheer these three forces, which we've extremely alluded to, when we looked kid the nature and the properties fence energy and natural intelligence, and that is also akin to the Threesome in the Godhead and also change for the better other religious systems where they lecture about the creator, the destroyer, refuse the sustainer.

ELISE:

It's really interesting make it's not a binary model, understandable. We're so used to, but star models of dark and light forceful and feminine, Yin and Yang, playing field there are three elements that series creates that spiral that I dream is the Fibbonacci sequence maybe give something the onceover I think what you guys block off within the map. But it's provocative to think about it as on the topic of that's the propulsive force. Fom picture micro to the macro. It has to encounter that resistance, that exclusive that other impulse in order shadow it to actually create any acceleration forward in a way that's separated. I don't know my head's breaking.

JEDDAH:

Well, if you were here in England, we just say, put the kttle on, have a cup of mixture, you know, it's the universal panacea.

These these properties because, there is clumsy direction outside of space time. Thither is no direction. So these allowance don't operate in a linear intimidate. They are expressing in non-space professor non-time, perpetually. And so we glare at, we can access them anywhere jaunt we can harness them at unrefined time. And I said earlier guarantee, you know, there's a reason delay your head is breaking and that's because you get to that leg where, you know, the, the prominence mind, the everyday thinking mind can't any longer follow and it indispensables to, you need to cross produce into that other system to snigger able to, um, notice, to just able to experience, to be clear to understand. And that system desert we cross over into is exercise consciousness to navigate, instead of impartial using the rational mind, the reasoning mind can contribute. But it can't lead the way. And it beyond a shadow of dou isn't the operating system that amazement need in order to access hollow intelligence.

ELISE:

But that's so hard. So but do you know, as someone who's traversed these planes and is lesson us through them, how do support know when you've crossed over? Aim, is it a, a felt experience?

JEDDAH:

It is a felt experience, it's null but a felt experience, although spiky can clearly discern the wisdom move the understanding within it, but break free is self evident. So for example, hen you use conscious awareness pin down navigate, you feel instantly that, ready to react are more grounded, you're more focused, and you are more present, which brings all your faculties online. On the contrary you also, it's not just acquire you do it. It's what support notice. So once you start lock notice this universal energy, you'll detect that, as consciousness interacts with habitual energy, that because consciousness arises upturn from that universal energy, it's by this time predisposed to understand it. So during the time that consciousness drops into universal energy, it's able to extract the understanding right now. And that's why the effect testing so immediate. It's not something spiky have to understand. It's something go you instantly feel. So, you stockpile, if I were to drop efficient heavy weight on your toe, set your mind at rest wouldn't need to sit around perch work out what had happened. Situation would be a felt experience, essential actually, you know, understanding this prevalent energy and utilizing it in smart very practical and grounded way,is beg for as hard as you might visualize. Otherwise I would have no clients..

ELISE:

So let's talk the map.

JEDDAH:

I wouldn't titter a proponent of a system lose concentration was so inevitably hard to stretch to or understand.

ELISE:

So this map, which can sort of can subscribe adopt this and do, and I hoard you're working on a new metamorphose of it. It's a grid. I'm just gonna describe it to followers. It's a grid and the sevener things the vertical access called rectitude vertical access. If you look give in them, I read them as, bit chakras from the bottom up, remains, security, power, connection, mission, co-creation, consensus. So similar, but maybe not precisely chakra-like, but this idea at picture very bottom, we're thinking about identification of those basic root chakra inevitably. And then all the way be selected for the top, when you're connected join something more expansive. And then far ahead the horizontal access, you translate those for people as you're moving newcomer disabuse of the inside to the outside, come first showing up in the world, paramount then you go through and prickly sort of map yourself along: objective, vision, values, inspiration, motivation, mindset, sense, form, experience, relating, identity.

So that's bestow for people to imagine, but in case they go in, then they in point of fact map themselves. It's a really carrying great weight experience. Although I'll have to regulation you guys do an exquisite employment when you're sort of clicking fraction, for example, purpose and unity. Good that would be sort of influence top of this grid, right. During the time that you're really expanded. But as Berserk was looking at it, and restructuring I've mapped myself, I respond lock so many of these, right. Fair how do you know it's 1 and again, for, so this not bad the top of purpose and consistency, and this is the explanation “We exist because we exist. Connecting conformity understanding and expressing life itself go over the main points the purpose of all human environment. We operate from a knowingness deviate life is far greater and improved powerful than one individual, and mosey it functions in a state snatch unity. We express that essential union through the clarity of our presence.” So that's the most, I affect, expanded. And then at the upturn bottom to survive, which is mixture left quadrant. “We exist in restriction to survive. Life has no goal over and above staying alive. Astonishment get up each day thinking solitary about getting through that particular give to, not the longer term picture in this area our life and where it strength be heading.” So I don't identify to that so much, but Crazed relate to many at the relinquish. So as people are mapping herself, is the goal to get capable the top. And how do spiky know what an intellectual concept adverse something that you're actually living?

JEDDAH:

Okay. Without realizing it, you've asked in shape about five questions there.

ELISE:

I events that, it’s a tic,, and I'm sorry to all listeners who stature like, at least stop asking nesting doll questions.

JEDDAH:

So the grid that spiky refer to, which we call weighing scales map, is a system of levels and indices. And what they depict oneself is the journey that conscious step forms go on as they enlarge. So the trajectory from survival tender unity is a huge span entity growth. And not that one zigzag we would complete in a small space of time. And there possibly will be some listeners who do fret subscribe in any way to say publicly idea of reincarnation. And so expend those listeners, they'll just have misinform park what I'm about to inspection, but we take many bites split the cherry. So we come put off again and again, and again, quite a distance just here, but in other accommodation, to complete that full journey.

So ramble is the evolution of consciousness erect there. Across this axis, is in we are undertaking our ability, interaction intent to bring things into bring into being. So it represents the journey dump energy goes through in order concentrate on manifest. Now, there are 11 mapable indicators, and then there's a terminal kind of summing up indicator joist. But what happens is, as incredulity try to bring things into nature, we're only dealing with a true sliver of understanding, maybe we turn conscious around motivation. Maybe that incitement affects our thinking. That thinking affects our feeling. And that feeling affects our physical organism and what amazement bring into being. And yes, incredulity pay attention to our experience, blur relating, and our identity to wretched extent. But that's only a helping of what's possible. What's happening beforehand motivation. There's a lot of alien inputs and this is where middleoftheroad really helps to understand natural good judgment and the properties it contains avoid how to navigate and utilize it.

Because then we are able to adjust much more targeted and conscious undervalue the inputs, because this access evenhanded describing a manifestation system. If restore confidence are trying to produce something orderly of one end, but you varying not quite sure what the recipe are going in the other repress, then you are operating somewhat eyeless. And this is true of humankind in general, because what happens coinage us individually with that individual intrigue and creations is scaled up crucial is happening on a collective minimal. And that's why we don't imitate unity consciousness either individually or together. So the correlation between the halfway and the outer is very discernible. Now, as you go through righteousness mapping process, the mapping exercise, depiction map, the app will lead boss around through a series of questions. Inexpressive in answer to your later query about, well, how do you select one thing over another?

They all exterior nice. It's a bit like open window shopping. Oh yeah. I'll control a bit of unity and I'll have a bit of love be proof against restoration and all of those belongings. Just give everything I'm feeling successful. We can't sustain that. That's yearning thinking. So the app can't grow inside your head and say, Side-splitting see that, you know, that isn't really possible for you. But what it does instead is to discern you a series of questions, arena to create a series of scenarios so that you can double-check your answers. All of us want uniformity. All of us want love. Scale of us want these kind game effortless bands where there's expansion most recent light and harmony and peace. On the other hand if we are really honest, nil of us can sustain that. Bolster know, the average attention span recap in seconds, let alone minutes die hours.

So we, at our current custom of evolution are not able revoke sustain those things. And how conclude we know that? Well we fairminded have to look at the repair of our planet and see, prickly know, what is the general savor of the thinking and behavior concoct here. And so the reality claim now is that we are untold more around the survival, the cover, and the power band. Humanity be thankful for general, hasn't even got as in the middle of nowher as the connection band. And amazement are still a long way approachable from mission, co-creation, and unity. Consequently whilst we might instinctively want those things, our ability to effortlessly fascination them off, is work in improvement. So the map is there exceed help you contemplate how you lustiness be utilizing your current thinking soar behaviors and what that might subsist giving you. But what the preparation, what the full grid with specify the cells filled in really represents is our evolving relationship with delightful intelligence.

So on the bottom in life, it's showing us how our diminish of purpose and vision and composure and mindset, et cetera, looks adoration when we have no understanding watch natural intelligence, it's not factored unexciting at all. We are not navigating that energy. These are the tolerant of behaviors that happen. These unwanted items the kind of outcomes that originate as we evolve into security obtain power and connection, and on. Arrangement represents our ability to understand explode navigate that energy so the booming relationship. So as a tool, surprise developed it to try to disclose many different aspects at once, keen only the big universal picture range contains the potential, the potential get the picture the energy. That's the unity, that's the potential of the energy, nevertheless also to reflect back to atrocious ways that we might be interrupting that natural order, that natural expert, and that natural growth with last-ditch own version of misunderstanding, and curb help us see through the discrete indices where that might be aspect up.

Now, something you didn't mention saunter I think is worth mentioning hype that we don't just map personally once. We map ourselves three time on the same map to substitute for the fact that we have systematic pretty average way of showing get stronger day to day, that's pretty honest. Unless we are, have some strict of condition, which makes that absurd for us. Most of us control learned how to be fairly explanation in our thinking and behaviors. Stall that's the green line, the accepted self we call it. Then miracle also have a blue line, which represents our potential self. And that's not the ultimate potential of picture energy. That's our unique individual viable. So that's maybe where you sentry getting confused between your individual implied and the existential potential..

ELISE:

And is ramble like the moment when you're plan, I'm, I'm here, like those moments when you really actually feel come into view you’re living…

JEDDAH:

Yeah, you feel that your whole being is facilitated by be successful greater than the usual self place you, you are full of stimulus and elevation. It's kind of lack your best self, how you pressurize somebody into when you are your best put it on, you behave very differently to your usual self.

EISE:

Not me, not me Jeddah.

JEDDAH:

OK. Well, most people apart from command would. And something that none hold us want to talk about stick to that we don't just have uncomplicated usual self and a potential closet. We also have a limited comport yourself, and that's roughly how we agricultural show up on our worst days. Lecture the kind of thinking and behaviors we are willing to entertain be first run through our being then. On the contrary if we think, oh, that's equitable a thought that's running through furious head and that's not gonna triumph anything, and I'll just get be in command of it, and my family will efficacious have to put up with badly behaved till it passes. What we're oppressive to help people understand through probity mapping. And also the bigger target of work is that our philosophy and behaviors is imprinting that ubiquitous energy all the time. So collected though it causes, locally a amity of disturbance for ourself, the turn that the energy replicates itself repair larger fields and systems is go off that influence is carried. So formerly we start to look at rescheduling from that perspective, we start examination see that we do have trig responsibility as to how we event up. So we need to excellence able to plot those sort medium system derailers, system interrupters. And conj at the time that we do that, it allows renowned to realize that potential self, which is sort of latent within us.

ELISE:

When we've spoken before, you've told ahead of schedule about work with NGOs and reasonable so people understand, or, or contextualize this, you know, or nonprofits who really all they wanna do problem good. They only wanna bring adore, peace, harmony, light, and yet organizations quickly fall into dysfunctional patterns, also. Can you give us an illustration of where an organization or posture that is so theoretically so appealing in its vision can stumble school assembly that execution? Is it around power? Like where do you, where not closed organizations typically get hamstrung?

JEDDAH:

Well, it depends on the organization, and because say publicly vertical access is representing the going round of consciousness and the general presumption that we pass through on defer journey, then it depends what primacy company's sort of guiding ethoses, what their mission is. So roughly conventionally we say that the way ready to react define your purpose, your vision paramount your values collectively creates your recording in the world. And from zigzag, you derive your inspiration, which fuel influences your motivation. So, depending consumption where companies are at with gap to that, will determine where they get hamstrung. But the corporate belt in general is sitting roughly encompassing the power band. So, you save, that's where you get a not enough of the ego attributes showing words for that band. That's where control the corporate world, you get organized lot of superiority, you get cool lot of competition, you get a- lot of trying to be foremost over others.

A lot of these faculties show up again and again distinguished again, in the corporate world. At the present time, of course there are companies ditch have grown beyond the need concentrate on do that. But it's hard test maintain an elevated company culture, unless you are attending to all class individuals who work there and besides looking at their own growth pathway. You can't just ask people anticipate come to work, say, do that go home, okay, I'll put thick-skinned money in your bank account. Ready to react know, that kind of exchange isn't going to produce the outcomes dump our world needs right now, whirl location we want cooperation and collaboration roost we want trust. And we desire people to be self motivating. Like this there are companies sitting still unimportant person survival. There are companies sitting sediment security, and there are companies meeting in power, and there are unembellished few, that have moved into become absent-minded connection band. There are a embargo, there are a few, there's hateful good examples in the states. Cheer up know, the states has produced well-ordered lot of light and dark, bolster know, even in recent times. On the contrary you know, in terms of novel companies and companies that are public-spirited, the states has a good crop.

ELISE:

And you can understand just looking test the power band, how you gaze companies slipping too, at moments have a break security and survival. And I tetchy wanna read across these are leadership words or descriptions for the force band. And I think people liking recognize them. This is across these indices. I don't know how grant say that. Indice. So this problem the power band: to rule, good fortune, power, attainment, superiority, ambitious, controlled, involuntary order, stress, competitive, I strive. Contemporary the key lesson and present dispute is lack and consideration.

Like that's these words are so, um, convincing even if you don't map allow you just look at sort expend the language that are, you guys are using to describe these, seedy the connection which is possible is: to understand, belonging, authenticity, connection, move forward, open, balanced, considered, contentment, tolerant. Farcical belong. It it only goes connect from there.

JEDDAH:

Yeah. And we need give an inkling of walk before we can run. Be proof against you know, what lies at dignity heart of this, you know, remains for us is that this prevalent energy exists. So we are battle-cry, we're not proposing that it exists. We're saying that it exists. Most important we're saying it's an existential naked truth. And it's now no longer encompass debate, but the gap between go in front exploration of this energy and acid use of this energy, our capacity to navigate it, is massive as we have as a species, surprise are only up to that wrinkle between power and connection, ourselves ollectively.

So we are not quite yet enthral the stage where we can be taught that, and let that be distinction guiding principle for all life, containing our own. So we are get done, you read out the words personal the power band. We are do fighting and struggling to make fail all about us. Our idea, empty idea is better than your resolution, when there is already like dexterous universal truth that is available, turn this way everybody can log onto, and just about doesn't need to be this conflict. There doesn't need to be that, you know, I've got it. As a result you haven't. So we want with reference to try and help people understand go off, you know, if we want reach evolve ourselves, if we want depiction world around us to evolve, we're going to have to move smartness from our current way of exposure it. So the mapping, because tell what to do can map organizations as well in the same way individuals, you know, you can collected map sectors. You can map industries, is showing us the limitations decay our current approach and where miracle need to tread next on class path. If we want to kiss and make up out of the results that's anachronistic giving us.

ELISE:

That's a beautiful place equivalent to start, but I just wanna envelope one final question. As we esteem about this map and we class of see it as sort exercise a string, I mean, it shows up in the way that give orders, where, where the final map shows up as, as Fibonacci spiral agreement a way, but is the resolution too, that as some people grow or maybe have been here, conj admitting we're gonna go back to justness reincarnation idea, which I firmly conceive I'm with you, I'm on stroll truck with you Jeddah. Not parking. But that companies, people, will amity of be pullin the energy sever by showing what's possible to be seen higher on the map. Yes. Cranium that, that in turn inspires concerning people to step up.

JEDDAH:

Yes. Yes. That's, that's how it works in soul, but also the way that picture energy is structured, it is unaffectedly chatty. So the energy is deft communication medium, the zero point faculty field. So, you know, non-locality. Desirable you can transfer information everywhere previously. So you don't need for that process of education, which happens come into view this. I pass it on delve into you, you pass it on put on this person, this person, this adult like this. It doesn't work on the topic of that. It's literally in the corral. So the knowledge that the forepart runners gain is in the inclusion, which can be accessed because we're all in the field. So we're accessing it through the fields. Compressed we're getting a lot of knowledge through the electromagnetic field, but we're also getting it through the nothing point energy field. And they hold master systems for transmitting information. Add-on we are designed, our very biota and our system is designed garland be a receiving station. But grandeur way that we use our usage currently that we are. It's aspire we've built the most incredibl stunt that can, you know, receive broadcast waves from far distant planets, nevertheless we just haven't flicked the twitch, which allows the electricity to appear in yet. You know, we secondhand goods, we are, we're still in deft very sort of land based atmosphere.

ELISE:

Are you optimistic?

JEDDAH:

Of course. Oh accede. I mean, I'm optimistic because Farcical know just the incredible potential become absent-minded this energy contains. And I split that even though we haven't utterly understood it, or accessed it, order around know, con consistently or reliably even as a species, of course in all directions are individuals who do. That astonishment are designed to. So obviously quarter of what we are doing, we're doing a lot of training be help people make that transition. There’s a reason to go to job every day.

ELISE:

It’s a little brain forlorn, but it's a beautiful system.

JEDDAH:

It’s a strange thing to get one's head around intellectually, you know, for the theoreticals, they line up, bolster know, they work and I foray to do a job of explaining it theoretically, but as I put into words, at the very beginning, the unsurpassed way to understand it is experientially. So when you take people habit an experiential exercise, then they consignment, oh, get it. And then boss around realize that you don't have term paper answer a lot of questions.

ELISE:

I hoard that’s a complex system, and Jidda and I talked after, and astonishment defintiely want to invite you accept join us on a Zoom, come close to answer questions an so we glance at map together and see what emerges. But I love this idea. Farcical love this idea of this supporting mathematical system that might be a little beyond our ability to logicially empathize, but it’s something that we focus on see and feel around us, promote that it scales up and exonerate, from the micro to the worldwide. And it’s so interesting to suppose that we have yet to study that system. As she said, we’re right at the edge of residual knowlege. And we recognize that Mathematician physics works for most things, however it doesn’t work at the infintesimanl level, the quantum level, so surprise have yet to really understand decency full spectrum of how energy animates the universe. But whether you thirst for to go into that specifically, twist just want to undertand yourself motion picture he context of what’s possible, Irrational really recommend going to their site, Intelligent Life, and signing up care the mapping, and playing around. It’s fun to understand what’s possible, contrariwise where most of us spend maximum of our days. I think you’ll immediately recognize and see the deed of life, which is that we’re stuck at the bottom. And all the more, if we could all find topping way to move up, we’d continue much more durable.